Sunday, September 20, 2009

66 Block Follow-up

For anyone surfing the net that happens across my posts, I thought it might be helpful to copy the conversation that took place on Facebook regarding the central phone connection in a home setting discussion:

David Henderson - Tim, yes the NID is the screwbox. I dont know about the ethernet upgrade, though you are right about the cost! I thought about using a patch panel, but how do I route all the phones through the panel? Would I not have one line to the telco and four lines (phones) coming to the panel? I'm sure it's simple, I'm just missing that piece in my brain. :-)

Tim Vent - Good question - how DO you get multiple phones through the panel? I've done it a couple of ways - mind you this has been done on my own, not in any business or anything as this is some serious southern-engineering here: but you could just make up a "y" adapter with enough "Y's" on it to cover all of the phones you would patch in, or if you can find... Read More a punch-down tool that won't "cut" when you punch, you could just strip enough length off of your wire coming from your NID so that it can kinda "weave" through all of the patch points that need phone service - but you will start to degrade signal probably as you add more phones (but I would think 4-5 phones wouldn't be too bad.)
I went the "Y" route with mine when I did something similar, then at the wall-panel, I broke it out to two connections, 1 was rj11 for phone and the other was rj45 for network. Got away with running 1 wire. Gigabit won't run over it though because it uses all 8 conductors, just FYI.

David Henderson - Hmm, the "Y" route ain't half bad... I thought about the "weave" but figured it wouldnt turn out as good as I would hope. :-) I'm not worried about gig to the telco anytime soon... :-) And, I'm not running gig locally - not yet anyway.. :-) Thanks for the help! I think I'll go the "Y" route through a patch panel. I'm 802.11 throughout with only three hard-wired computers (server and 2 pc's), so I'm good for LAN for now. :-)

Tim Vent - Oh, I misunderstood - this is just for phone?
In that case, get the 66 block and be done with it ;)
Or, skip the block and just strip the ends back and "Y" them all together, no need for a patch panel.

David Henderson - Well, the issue I have now is that they are all "Y" together bare wire outside and troubleshooting is a pain. I was thinking about doing the 66 block thing, but everything I've seen online about it makes it look much more complicated than I think it needs to be... I was hoping for a basic outline of what goes where. The 2nd part was about the move from dsl to ethernet, but i dont know what centurytel ether is going to look like, so I can wait for that part.

Justin Castleman - what I would do is get a standard cat 5 patch panel and install cat3 6 pair punchdown jacks in it, they make the type of panels that you can just snap different type of punchdowns in. on your phone connections terminate with 6 wire plugs and plug em in. When the switch comes just change the jacks and plugs

David Henderson - Ah, good thinking from both of you! Thanks for the help!


Ultimately, I think the punch-down block with interchangeable connectors is the route I'll take. I am going to run CAT5 to each phone jack and use the electrician's standard for color code matching. Then, if the time comes when we have to upgrade to full cat5 on our internet line, it will be an easy fix (just re-punch that line).

When the project gets underway, I'll post pics, etc.

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